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		<title>By: Jeffrey Price</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse,

I too came to YNAB after MS Money went kerplunk (with a very sudden, loud thud) a couple years ago. I love YNAB, but am VERY interested in seeing some improvement in YNAB&#039;s statement reconciliation process.

It was a cool time-saving feature of MS Money, but I don&#039;t think it has to be as complicated as a reconciliation wizard (at least at first). It could be as simple as providing an option to _not_ mark downloaded transactions as Cleared. This would allow the user to manually Clear transactions from the monthly statement and use the existing Cleared Balance as the amount to reconcile to the statement.

MS Money transactions 4 had different statuses as I recall: (U)ncleared, (E)lectronic Cleared, (C)leared, (R)econciled.

Transactions were entered as (U)ncleared (similar to YNAB today). Electronically downloaded (e.g. OSX in YNAB) transactions were marked as E. At reconciliation time, the application presented every transaction that _wasn&#039;t_ in a (R)econciled status and allowed you to (C)lear each one (changing U&#039;s and E&#039;s to C&#039;s). It provided some helpful sorts of these transactions that match statement grouping (e.g. &quot;Deposits by Date, Checks by Check Number, then Transactions by Date&quot;) to ease this process further.

When/if the manually (C)leared transactions matched the ending statement amount, you hit finish or something like that and all those C&#039;s now become R&#039;s.

The nicety about this then is you can have a filter based on &quot;show me only unreconciled transactions&quot; in your account view (in addition to) a filter by month(s). Which would also be very great side-benefit/feature.

I&#039;m c# myself and I don&#039;t know AIR, but would consult or do whatever to see this make a future (soon) release. In the meantime, keep up the good work and congrats on all the recent publicity. It&#039;s been well earned.

P.S. Another helpful feature in MS Money was the cash-flow graph (based on account balances and scheduled credits/debits and category budgeted items and/or spending trends from that account)... I found it helpful in visualizing future impact of decisions you make with purchases today... good especially for people that live on edge of overdraft. Of course it can work the other way too (help some people see future income and how you can pay back decisions today with income in the future). In the end it probably doesn&#039;t align well with the YNAB philosophy, but just some more random thoughts from a prior MS Money user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse,</p>
<p>I too came to YNAB after MS Money went kerplunk (with a very sudden, loud thud) a couple years ago. I love YNAB, but am VERY interested in seeing some improvement in YNAB&#8217;s statement reconciliation process.</p>
<p>It was a cool time-saving feature of MS Money, but I don&#8217;t think it has to be as complicated as a reconciliation wizard (at least at first). It could be as simple as providing an option to _not_ mark downloaded transactions as Cleared. This would allow the user to manually Clear transactions from the monthly statement and use the existing Cleared Balance as the amount to reconcile to the statement.</p>
<p>MS Money transactions 4 had different statuses as I recall: (U)ncleared, (E)lectronic Cleared, (C)leared, (R)econciled.</p>
<p>Transactions were entered as (U)ncleared (similar to YNAB today). Electronically downloaded (e.g. OSX in YNAB) transactions were marked as E. At reconciliation time, the application presented every transaction that _wasn&#8217;t_ in a (R)econciled status and allowed you to (C)lear each one (changing U&#8217;s and E&#8217;s to C&#8217;s). It provided some helpful sorts of these transactions that match statement grouping (e.g. &#8220;Deposits by Date, Checks by Check Number, then Transactions by Date&#8221;) to ease this process further.</p>
<p>When/if the manually (C)leared transactions matched the ending statement amount, you hit finish or something like that and all those C&#8217;s now become R&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The nicety about this then is you can have a filter based on &#8220;show me only unreconciled transactions&#8221; in your account view (in addition to) a filter by month(s). Which would also be very great side-benefit/feature.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m c# myself and I don&#8217;t know AIR, but would consult or do whatever to see this make a future (soon) release. In the meantime, keep up the good work and congrats on all the recent publicity. It&#8217;s been well earned.</p>
<p>P.S. Another helpful feature in MS Money was the cash-flow graph (based on account balances and scheduled credits/debits and category budgeted items and/or spending trends from that account)&#8230; I found it helpful in visualizing future impact of decisions you make with purchases today&#8230; good especially for people that live on edge of overdraft. Of course it can work the other way too (help some people see future income and how you can pay back decisions today with income in the future). In the end it probably doesn&#8217;t align well with the YNAB philosophy, but just some more random thoughts from a prior MS Money user.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Platte</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Platte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delighted to hear this is on the way -- I came to the site to search for a discussion of this amid several hours of work that YNAB is costing me that wouldn&#039;t be necessary if I was still on Quicken.

I had someone misunderstand YNAB&#039;s &quot;C&quot; feature several months ago and now need to find their error(s) and get YNAB back in sync -- nightmare! and wouldn&#039;t be if there were checkpoints like Quicken gives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delighted to hear this is on the way &#8212; I came to the site to search for a discussion of this amid several hours of work that YNAB is costing me that wouldn&#8217;t be necessary if I was still on Quicken.</p>
<p>I had someone misunderstand YNAB&#8217;s &#8220;C&#8221; feature several months ago and now need to find their error(s) and get YNAB back in sync &#8212; nightmare! and wouldn&#8217;t be if there were checkpoints like Quicken gives.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, we&#039;ll get it in there and you&#039;ll like it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we&#8217;ll get it in there and you&#8217;ll like it :)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jacobson</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jacobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse, I love YNAB, and I really love the Iphone App. but it drives me crazy that I can&#039;t reconcile my bank statement conveniently and quickly with a YNAB tool.  I&#039;m glad to hear that you are changing your tune about reconciliation.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse, I love YNAB, and I really love the Iphone App. but it drives me crazy that I can&#8217;t reconcile my bank statement conveniently and quickly with a YNAB tool.  I&#8217;m glad to hear that you are changing your tune about reconciliation.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Nickolette</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Nickolette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m considering YNAB for purchase but waiting for an auto reconcile function. YNAB need to reconcile by comparing a set of downloaded bank transactions with what is entered in the YNAB register and if the transactions hasn&#039;t been entered yet by the user add it to the register.  This is what Quicken does.

Consider, in the past I would get a paper bank statement at the end of the month, go through my register checking off the transactions, do a little math and come up with a balanced register. It looks like nothing has changed with YNAB except for the math calculating. Please add a auto reconcile function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m considering YNAB for purchase but waiting for an auto reconcile function. YNAB need to reconcile by comparing a set of downloaded bank transactions with what is entered in the YNAB register and if the transactions hasn&#8217;t been entered yet by the user add it to the register.  This is what Quicken does.</p>
<p>Consider, in the past I would get a paper bank statement at the end of the month, go through my register checking off the transactions, do a little math and come up with a balanced register. It looks like nothing has changed with YNAB except for the math calculating. Please add a auto reconcile function.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am new to YNAB and I too was looking for a way to reconcile. I&#039;m in disagreement with my bank&#039;s statement at the moment, and trying to find out where I made the mistake is hard without the reconcile function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am new to YNAB and I too was looking for a way to reconcile. I&#8217;m in disagreement with my bank&#8217;s statement at the moment, and trying to find out where I made the mistake is hard without the reconcile function.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think it&#039;s important--just not as important to have a separate reconciliation wizard and all of that.  I&#039;m changing my tune though.  I&#039;m starting to see that, in this instance, a well-designed workflow will save people time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think it&#8217;s important&#8211;just not as important to have a separate reconciliation wizard and all of that.  I&#8217;m changing my tune though.  I&#8217;m starting to see that, in this instance, a well-designed workflow will save people time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jesse,

I&#039;ve got to throw this one back at you.  Can you explain why you think it&#039;s NOT important to reconcile statements every month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jesse,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to throw this one back at you.  Can you explain why you think it&#8217;s NOT important to reconcile statements every month?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just in case you care.  I am a Money user looking for new software.  I want it on my desktop and my main concern is my budget.  YNAB looked perfect and had wonderful reviews.  I was ready to buy until I saw I could not do reconciliations.  I have 6 bank accounts and 4 credit cards and I will not use software that will not let me reconcile these accounts.  The reasons I want this function is stated by others above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just in case you care.  I am a Money user looking for new software.  I want it on my desktop and my main concern is my budget.  YNAB looked perfect and had wonderful reviews.  I was ready to buy until I saw I could not do reconciliations.  I have 6 bank accounts and 4 credit cards and I will not use software that will not let me reconcile these accounts.  The reasons I want this function is stated by others above.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry M.</title>
		<link>http://www.youneedabudget.com/blog/2006/what-do-you-do-when-you-reconcile/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also a Quicken and Pocket Quicken convert (now YNAB
and iPhone). The reconcile function is very important to me as
stated by other comments you have received plus....the first months
when you start it would be extremely important (crucial) to be able
to zero out on paper the account versus the paper copy from the
bank of Credit Card company as a data accuracy test. Not sure what
the C in YNAB does for us now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also a Quicken and Pocket Quicken convert (now YNAB<br />
and iPhone). The reconcile function is very important to me as<br />
stated by other comments you have received plus&#8230;.the first months<br />
when you start it would be extremely important (crucial) to be able<br />
to zero out on paper the account versus the paper copy from the<br />
bank of Credit Card company as a data accuracy test. Not sure what<br />
the C in YNAB does for us now.</p>
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