What is your average grocery bill per month?

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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby malisab » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:05 am

volfan85 wrote:. I keep household supplies like toilet paper etc. in a separate account so the 225 is just food supplies.


I keep looking back at this thread. Thanks to everyone.

I have non-food set up in a separate account and pet expenses in another. Do most people do that?

What do people spend on food vs. non-food?

I'm just starting and I'm seeing that, at least this month, the way I thought that things would break down isn't the way they're breaking down. (We used to eat out a lot...then we didn't at all...recently, a lot again...just when I'm starting to budget and pay attention.)
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby DaveCrom01 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:40 am

Hello Again!

Yes, I also keep pet expenses (food and vet) in a separate category, and I also keep none-food (bleach, dish soap, laundry supplies) etc in a separate category to grocery food.

Personally, the rationale behind this for me, is that when we see (for example) laundry soap on a special deal - we buy a load of it. It has no expiry date, so why not?

By keeping it separate, I allow that category to "break" rule 4. That big spend puts us OVERSPENT on household, lets sat -$40. I carry the -$40 over into the next month rather than have YNAB automatically punish the following month's budget. In time, as we don't buy soap any more for a few months, it gradually gets "Paid back".

It's the same with unexpected vet bills - I track the Pet category and gradually let the deficit get paid down.

Also, with regards to the veggie garden not helping that much - there are a couple of things you could consider if you don't mind me chipping in! Here's what we do.

I don't know what square feet you have, I look after around 400 square feet - all managed through a high-yield organic programme which anyone can do at home. It's less work, virtually no weeding, and works great even in the short growing season we have up here in Northern Ontario.

Basically, this means we are over-producing for what we need to eat in the summer, and if your kids dont like to eat them, maybe that's your issue too. Or, maybe you scale back your production because you know the kids won't eat them. If you cut the amount of produce growing by 50%, you only cut the workload by around 25% - that's a good rule of thumb.

So, we firstly sell the excess at our local farmers market. It costs $15 per season to have permission to sell, and we recover that in the first Saturday. Also, before the market begins, we swap our excess with other vendors - cucumbers for beans, tomatoes for courgette, depending on who has what.

If you don't have a market nearby, or don't want to make this an actual sub-business - then look at either canning or preserving - which we do with tomatoes, pickled beets, cabbage for sauerkraut., onions etc.

Then for the things which don't can well - green peppers for example - we cook up a basic sauce with tomatoes, garlic, green peppers, mushrooms (not grown by me!!) - into a generic sauce base and then freeze it in portions. It's much better to freeze that stuff after it's been cooked into something. Then over the winter, those sauces can be turned into a chilli con carne, a spaghetti sauce, chicken cacciatore etc - just by adding ground beef and different herbs. I've worked in a couple of restaurant kitchens in my time, and I'm the volunteer cook at our local Canadian Legion. I can tell you it is the way almost every professional chef works, and the knack is to examine your food plan based on your knowledge of family preferences (The Menu), and spot the common elements which can be combined and prepared in advance. Then when you add fresh meat, and fresh veg to supplement it at the time of preparation - it is efficient, cheap, and as delicious as making the whole thing from scratch.

Also, the excess herbs I grow get chopped and diced, then frozen into ice cubes in pre-measured amounts. Just pop them out and drop them into your cooking for taste that really is as good as the day they were picked and cut. However, if you do this with rosemary (one of my favourites) - make sure you really crush and bruise the needles (mortar and pestle if you have one - rolling pin and a plastic bag if you dont) prior to adding water and freezing them. You can dry these out and store them instead, but I find the flavour just isn't the same.

So basically - it's about growing as much as you *want* to, rather than as much as you only think you'll *need*. The ratio of "work" versus "output" is the key to it all. By only growing what you think you can eat, you are still putting in around 75% of the effort to grow a lot more.

Apologies for going off topic, or for sounding like a bit of a know-it-all - but this is one of my major, major, MAJOR interests in life. And to have it roll into a budget discussion too is pretty cool :-)

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EDIT - GARDENING INFO ACTUALLY FOR PREVIOUS POSTER :-)
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby volfan85 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:01 pm

Thanks Dave. We actually do can, freeze, and dry any fruits and vegetables that we don't consume during the summer growing season. I just wish could find more ways to utilize the vegetables in recipes that my kids will eat. We always seem to have a lot of beans LOL. My dh thinks we need to grow every variety out there. I think kids today are so used to eating processed foods at school and when eating out, that they don't have much appreciation for fresh garden vegetables. I am actually thinking of allowing the kids to set up a vegetable stand to sell excess vegetables that don't preserve well. Might be a good way for them to earn some extra spending money. We had a yard sale a few weeks back and sold everything we had picked out of the garden that morning. Of course, here in our area many, many people routinely garden. We have a joke about you need to keep your car doors locked when you go to church during the summer. That's so you won't find a big sack of squash in your front seat when you get back in the car. :D

I should mention in regards to my previous post that we have three dogs and I do include their dog food in my grocery budget. Vet care is budgeted elsewhere.
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby hawkes » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:56 pm

This is giving me a good perspective on where we are with groceries. Since January we have averaged about $916 a month on groceries. This includes everything... food, diapers, wipes, cleaning supplies, etc. We try to stay under $175 a week, but that has been a struggle for a bunch of reasons. I've seen segments on TV showing you ways to cut and save and sites on the web that promise to help save by showing you where the deals are, but my experience from checking these things out are that in most cases, the ways to save are completely different than our lifestyle, food habits etc. We are a family of 6 with our 4 kids being 8 and under and are not big eaters.

Anyone have any websites they have found to be worthy of the hype? Grocery Game, Coupon Mom, etc?
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby Sairey724Gamp » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:41 am

Check out this Simple Dollar article for that family's experience. It references a 2008 USDA report for various food plans.
Be encouraged. Most YNABers are doing better than average.

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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby felisidi » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:10 pm

Grocery is our biggest expendature -- cold day in hell I eat junk food to budget. That's the worst of budgeting for me -- eating junk to save money. NO NO NO
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby ishtar » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:39 pm

I've been averaging about $200-250/mo for groceries for me and a teen girl. BUT, I spend so much eating out, I'm embarrassed at the total.

I think if we were actually eating at home all the time, though, it would be closer to $300.

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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby crucial » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:48 am

Wife, myself and 8 month old - just under $800/month. That includes dining out which was approx. 80 bucks.
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby boxfullofblessings » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:45 pm

We are also a family of 6 (Mom, Dad, four boys under 7). Our grocery/Wal Mart bill fluctuates between $700 - $900. This includes food and general stuff (diapers, shampoo, household cleaners, etc.).

This is something I want to work on, however being a busy Mom limits my time. One resource that has helped is http://www.moneysavingmom.com/. Her free podcasts (right sidebar of her blog) are helpful to ease into using coupons.

Another tip is to look for Internet coupons on your favorite grocery store's website. =)
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby Thasic » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:47 am

My family of three, myself, my wife and my 8 year old daughter budget about $600 per month and an additional $100 per month to eat out. We usually spend about $500 for groceries and maybe $50 on eating out.
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby DGale » Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:25 am

My wife and I just decided to raise our monthly grocery bill from $300 to $350 (dining out is $90/month; we normally spend about $75 of that, I'd say). This covers the two of us, a four year old, a three year old, and a one-year old who regularly eats as much as either of the older two. So, that's about $70 per person for groceries (food only--diapers, cleaning supplies, etc. are all handled separately).

We're members of the local warehouse club, which helps a bit, but I think the bigger thing is just that we've learned to eat frugally. We buy a quarter of a cow once a year, which seems to do well for our beef needs--and is far cheaper than buying the equivalent (steaks & ground beef) at the store. We check the weekly fliers for sales at the two local grocery stores, and try to minimize last-minute purchases. And we hate to throw out food, so we don't buy unless we're confident we'll use it before we go bad.

Thinking back on it, our budget before kids was about $300/month for groceries, and we've never changed it (though we've been tempted to) until this month. So it's been a gradual change from feeding 2 on that much money to feeding 5; I think that gradualness helped.
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby Trevor » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:27 am

malisab wrote:
volfan85 wrote:. I keep household supplies like toilet paper etc. in a separate account so the 225 is just food supplies.


I keep looking back at this thread. Thanks to everyone.

I have non-food set up in a separate account and pet expenses in another. Do most people do that?


I do break out the grocery store purchases for non food items into other categories. If the receipt is long and I'm too lazy to to do the splitting then it all goes in as groceries.

I created multiple budgets for dining out:
* restaurant dining (out with the wife),
* fast food dining (on a road trip and went to a drive thru window)
* workday lunch (meal purchased while I'm at work)

This is only my first month with YNAB, so I am drastically under budget so far with my workday lunch because I know that whatever dollars I save can be put to work elsewhere. I work near the Wall Street area of NYC so lunch can be pretty expensive and really add up over a month.

Like the original poster, I suspect that I overspend on food in all categories. I could run the report from my Microsoft Money data to find out exactly how much I spend but that might be embarrassing. Using YNAB alone has scared me enough to modify my habits. I am looking forward to seeing a complete month in YNAB. I started with more than a full buffer so I have been increasing my budget to reflect my projections for this month, but next month I will be living on this months income hoping not to pull anything out of the emergency fund, so belt tightening is in order.
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby ultradianguy » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:43 pm

OMG. Are you all sitting down? My wife and I recently split up, but before we did, we were spending $2600/month for a family of 4. That's about $650/person/month. Shopping at Whole Foods contributed greatly to this. I always thought it was insane, but she insisted it was normal for an urban area. Seems to be a tad higher than most folks here, huh? Lots of take out, lots of prepared foods, lots of waste.

By the way, do you all consider take=out to be in the same category as going out to eat or same as groceries?
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby YYC27 » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:51 pm

I'm budgetting about $200/m for myself. It was kind of a wild guess, though, as I had never lived by myself until the end of August. I seem to be a little under that mark still for September, so I guess I'm doing alright.

ultradianguy wrote:By the way, do you all consider take=out to be in the same category as going out to eat or same as groceries?


I would put take-out in with dining-out .. which I'm currently lumping in with entertainment. :)
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Re: What is your average grocery bill per month?

Postby DaveAZ » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:59 pm

We average about $800 a month for a family of 4(one 20 month old and a 3 week old). That includes food and non-food items.

We only shop at Costco or Trader Joes and purchase a lot of the healthier type foods. We dont mind spending that bit extra to accomodate our lifestyle.

$2,600/month is hilarious. No wonder you split up! :D
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