Using Just YNAB for my Small Business

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Using Just YNAB for my Small Business

Postby siemensj » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:02 am

I am wanting to switch over from my accounting software and use just YNAB for my accounting but am wondering exactly how this will work. I was inspired by Jesses Blog post on Feb 28th but I can't seem to figure out how to enter my reciepts and not budget for the materials and hardware that I use.

There are only a few things that i need to budget, (taxes, shop expenses and tools etc.) Budgeting my expenses doesn't really make sense because when I get paid for the job i pay off the expenses every job. The problem is, if I don't budget the expense it is hard to tell how much I actually have left to budget.

I hope this makes sense, any help on on how I should set this up would be appreciated.
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Re: Using Just YNAB for my Small Business

Postby jessiebird » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:33 pm

I use Quickbooks as bookkeeper for my husband's business, and I get the budgeting thing. (We have payroll and some other things that will make me stick with QB.) I recently started a YNAB file for the business and even though it means entering the same info twice, it's a snap thanks to autofill.

I don't have the advice you want because I don't know the answers. I just wanted to say that at first I was very reluctant to "waste my time" budgeting for categories that get paid out based on what money we get in. There's no point budgeting for materials or payroll, for instance, because they are what they are and as soon as the customer pays us, we turn around and pay the materials and payroll (and subs, etc.).

However, as you say, YNAB allows me to see very clearly WHAT'S LEFT. And that was the piece that has always been missing. Now when we get paid and payroll and materials are paid for, I zero out those categories. While in your personal life you wouldn't want to let those categories go negative, in this situation it's OK because we know for sure that the income will cover those expenses. Unlike with a personal paycheck, this income is tied directly to those expenses, line by line.

Then I take what's still available to budget and divide it into the truly budgetable categories, like worker's comp and liability insurance, and a nice healthy "buffer" category (not in the YNAB sense; in the sense that if there's a slow week we still can pay the month's bills). This has turned everything around. Now I am always sure there's enough money to pay for taxes and insurance and I don't get the idea that because the account balance is fat that we can spend more than we can afford.

I do wish there were a hybrid that allowed QB to work with YNAB, but honestly it would only save me about 10 minutes a week, if that, in copying entries from QB to YNAB. Totally worth it.
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Re: Using Just YNAB for my Small Business

Postby siemensj » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:58 am

Thanks for that. That actually answers my question quite nicely. :D
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