YNAB You Need A Budget

[kef]

Where's the link to sign up for the beta 3 version? I want to pay and get started.

Kevin

[Taytay]

Where's the link to sign up for the beta 3 version? I want to pay and get started.

Kevin

The beta isn't out yet. We'll be sending announcements via email when it is though.

[arroznegro]

Has there been any testing with running YNAB3 on the Linux platform?

[Taytay]

Has there been any testing with running YNAB3 on the Linux platform?

There hasn't yet, but I want there to be. No guarantees, but I expect it will work pretty well. (Fingers crossed). Do you run Linux I presume?

[arroznegro]

Yes I do (Ubuntu). I have Adobe Air up also. Not having to dual-boot will remove yet another excuse for me.

[malisab]

Fuzzy wording police alert: Some people will inevitably gloss past the word "probably" and conclude that you're looking at a range from October 31-November 30 for the beta release, that being 60 to 90 days after September 1. I thought I might point that out in case you need to backpedal a bit.

I can be patient. YNAB Pro is doing well enough for however long it takes you to get YNAB 3 right.

Patzer

I'm not taking it as a guarantee, but as soon as I saw the 60-90 days I paused reading and calculated when YNAB 3 might be ready.

See, and when I read this...

The Actual Beta Ship Date of YNAB 3

Also, I wanted to bring up the point that YNAB 3 is not shipping into the beta release tomorrow (I wish). We're still shooting for our target of 2009...

I glossed over the rest because I am going back to not expecting it until (hopefully) December 31.

Does that make me a pessimist?

[DeeinRI]

Wonderful. Please sign me up for beta testing/ynab3. I'm very excited.

[n8dogg]

Jesse,

Thanks for listening. I commend you on keeping a cool head in the midst of this discussion. You have a lot more time/reputation/etc. invested in this than the rest of us, yet were able to listen carefully to some complaints and see someone else's perspective. Much appreciated. I'll think about your offer "to make it right." My whole goal here was not to save a few bucks, but to be heard (and in the process felt I needed to defend myself a bit). As I said, I'll give it some thought. I too want to be fair.

Thanks again.

[joachim]

Hi, I just purchased the current version (28th September). The upgrade to YNAB 3 is still free if you purchased after September 15th?

(I am especially hanging out foe the Mac version)

Thanks Joachim

[xraymd]

Just chiming in here to say thanks for the civil tone maintained during a tough and potentially touchy discussion. I think being heard and feeling respected is extraordinarily important, on both sides, especially if the point of view expressed may happen to be swimming against the tide.

In my case, I purchased YNAB in May (with a discount coupon that I received at the time as an enticement to purchase). I'd been hanging back because I didn't want to spend $49.95 and didn't want to have to spend time learning something new, yet I had no illusions that I really did need a budget. Even though I purchased, I did not actually start using the software until the end of August.

Now that I know what I know, I am in the camp that would pay double without an eyeblink for YNAB 3 because my finances are firming up and the flab is exiting stage left given how much YNAB Pro has helped me. But I also see the point of view of feeling like if the timing of my purchasing decision had been influenced by what I thought I was being told about what to expect from an upgrade price, only to see that pricing decision handled differently from what I truly thought I'd understood, I would probably also feel a bit mislead, or even played. Especially since I was someone who did not purchase until I had a discount coupon for a percentage off that finally did induce me to buy, so clearly the pennies spent matter to me, as I imagine they may matter to someone else who weighs a purchase decision heavily on the facts (and presumed promises) presented.

Even with that said, the reason I would be most likely to get over it very fast is due to what else happens on this forum - and that is something priceless which is the real consideration given by Jesse to any concerns raised. He is clearly willing to grapple and to be frank about what he thinks, and where he could have misfired, at least in the eyes of some, and to work to find the happy medium. That means offering respect for points of view needing airing that may not be the popular stance, and that means integrity. Hooray for that! Clearly it is safe to post here - you will not be bashed and quashed; you will be heard.

YNAB and the forum is doing not just wonders for my budget - it is doing wonders for my morale. I am deeply appreciative whenever I read exchanges where potential contention is handled with equanimity. As a poster, it takes mettle to stand up for your possibly minority point of view and it is gratifying when you find you are dealing with a mensch. Bouquets to you, Jesse.

xraymd

[Mudie]

Hi, I just purchased the current version (28th September). The upgrade to YNAB 3 is still free if you purchased after September 15th?

Yes.

Steve

[U.P. North]

I have been watching the thread and keeping a low profile on everything. I have been a YNAB Pro user since Dec 2007 and a Beta tester for about half that time. IMO on future upgrades (after 3 comes out), I think we need to go back to no announcements of upgrade dates and keep a private group of beta testers. I know there will be slips and leaks that a version is coming, but if it is not publicly announced when released, then nothing like this will happen. There can be a "Coming Soon" post on the website that might list a bullet or 2 to let people know there is a new version in the works, but no date promises, no price points - nothing until it is ready for public sales. At that point, all price structures are posted and thats that! I hope the team can make the 2009 timeframe they are shooting for, but you know what, I am not going to pressure them on that and if they need extra time, then I don't have an issue with that. I would much rather see the product be complete and working tip top and be delayed, then to be backed into a corner by a date that everyone is demanding and the product not be what the team wanted it to be. For that I say to Jesse, take your time and do it right!

Dan

[chrish]

I personally like the announcement of an upgrade. I'm excited about a newer, better version being in the works. The screenshots and videos of YNAB 3 in action have made me want to purchase. I agree that promising a delivery date too far out is very problematic, and can lead to developers working to meet a schedule instead of the actual vision for the product. I do like announcements like probably within 2009. Once the date is close enough something like 80% chance we will have the public beta ready in 30 days would be great. Not only would it satisfy my curiosity , but it also (along with the known price point) allows me to start saving up to purchase the new version.

Overall I think early exposure is great advertising, but if done incorrectly (breaking promises, etc) could really hurt. I think Jesse and the team have done a good job of being open with the community and I would hate to miss out on that for any possible future releases.

Chris

[bothyhead]

I have been watching the thread and keeping a low profile on everything. I have been a YNAB Pro user since Dec 2007 and a Beta tester for about half that time. IMO on future upgrades (after 3 comes out), I think we need to go back to no announcements of upgrade dates and keep a private group of beta testers. I know there will be slips and leaks that a version is coming, but if it is not publicly announced when released, then nothing like this will happen. There can be a "Coming Soon" post on the website that might list a bullet or 2 to let people know there is a new version in the works, but no date promises, no price points - nothing until it is ready for public sales. At that point, all price structures are posted and thats that! I hope the team can make the 2009 timeframe they are shooting for, but you know what, I am not going to pressure them on that and if they need extra time, then I don't have an issue with that. I would much rather see the product be complete and working tip top and be delayed, then to be backed into a corner by a date that everyone is demanding and the product not be what the team wanted it to be. For that I say to Jesse, take your time and do it right!

Dan

+1

I have to agree with you - on all points. I do think, however, that larger the beta test pool is the better,
provided that your beta testers do a thorough job of testing the software, and also that they log any errors
in an accurate, descriptive manor.

[ejprosse]

Looking forward to the beta! Please make sure I get on the list. While I understand many people on this forum about the pricing, he had to make a decision and frankly, this is far better than Quicken as it will save you the extra $20. Come on folks, we are talking $20 or even $40. Today, I blew $4 on a single starbucks coffee. One week of those and this thing is paid for! I wanted to whine as well, but after I burnt my mouth on my hot coffee, the price didn't seem so bad for $35!

Starbucks coffee $4
Lunch Fast Food $5
Soda $2

Shoot, this is just one day. In a single week I would have blown through my $35 upgrade price and would not have blinked an eye.... come on folks!