anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

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anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby jemkeith » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:12 am

Has anyone tried ynab 4 in crossover? It's the pay version of Wine. How about wine 1.5.7, which is a development version of wine?
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby WolverineFan » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:55 am

I haven't tried it in either one, but it's working fine in 1.4 so hopefully 1.5 is working too.
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby jemkeith » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:31 am

It works pretty good, but the wifi sync doesn't work and right clicking doesn't work, sometimes. cloud syncing does work, but we have two iPhone's with transactions on them that we can't sync. I was wondering maybe a new version of wine might fix some of these issues. Since mine works pretty good, thanks to you all, I don't want to be a guinea pig. :D
Thank you all for your work on getting YNAB to work on linux!!!
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby Patzer » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:41 pm

jemkeith wrote:It works pretty good, but the wifi sync doesn't work and right clicking doesn't work, sometimes. cloud syncing does work, but we have two iPhone's with transactions on them that we can't sync. I was wondering maybe a new version of wine might fix some of these issues. Since mine works pretty good, thanks to you all, I don't want to be a guinea pig. :D
Thank you all for your work on getting YNAB to work on linux!!!


I got WiFi sync to work with Linux. On a thread in the main YNAB 4 forum, someone claimed that the old iPhone app could halfway WiFi sync to YNAB 4, sending new transactions but not receiving the budget in return. I don't know whether that would work with the WiFi sync solution I found, because I'm using the beta version of the iOS app that was designed to work with YNAB 4.

If you do try my WiFi fix, I highly recommend that you install a fresh instance of YNAB 4 in a different wineprefix. That way, if it screws something up you can just delete that wineprefix. I deleted the wineprefix "YNABtest" a lot of times before I found something that worked.

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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby halfmoonboy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:26 pm

jemkeith wrote:It works pretty good, but the wifi sync doesn't work and right clicking doesn't work, sometimes. cloud syncing does work, but we have two iPhone's with transactions on them that we can't sync. I was wondering maybe a new version of wine might fix some of these issues. Since mine works pretty good, thanks to you all, I don't want to be a guinea pig. :D
Thank you all for your work on getting YNAB to work on linux!!!


Your turn to be the guinea pig, jemkeith! That's a good way to say thanks. ;-)

I'll probably look into the right-click thing more in the future. I'm not concerned about wifi sync, since I am loading the new YNAB on Android and impatiently waiting for the iPhone app to be approved. I don't have the old iPhone app, and I cannot install it now.
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby halfmoonboy » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:10 pm

Alrighty, I tried wine1.5. This was the version from the PPA described here: http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu/

Checking for updates seemed to work without using winetricks to download wininet. Otherwise, it was not a success, and I cleaned up and reverted to the wine1.4 provided by Ubuntu 12.04. wine1.5 is in beta, so I guess some of this is to be expected.

#1) Upon installation, it wanted to download a windows version of mono to support .NET applications. OK, whatever.

#2) It wasn't happy with the wine-gecko that got installed when I upgrade to wine1.5, so it tried to download that as well. That never seemed to work, and the YNAB update screen was unable to show the changelog, since it didn't have the component to render the HTML.

#3) Right-clicking on an account name still does nothing!

Oh well.
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby jemkeith » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:50 am

Thanks for checking!!! I would help, but all I have is an older laptop that has 2GB of ram, so I doubt a virtual machine would run very well on it, and I REALLY don't want to mess up my install. The only internet we have is tethering a iphone. The only way we get 3G is to place the phone in a window and the laptop has to be within a couple of feet of it. It's kinda of a pain to have to download anything. We tether the phone, let dropbox update then work on the budget. Living in the boonies has its drawbacks sometimes. :D
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby WolverineFan » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:18 am

halfmoonboy wrote:Alrighty, I tried wine1.5. This was the version from the PPA described here: http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu/

Checking for updates seemed to work without using winetricks to download wininet. Otherwise, it was not a success, and I cleaned up and reverted to the wine1.4 provided by Ubuntu 12.04. wine1.5 is in beta, so I guess some of this is to be expected.

#1) Upon installation, it wanted to download a windows version of mono to support .NET applications. OK, whatever.

#2) It wasn't happy with the wine-gecko that got installed when I upgrade to wine1.5, so it tried to download that as well. That never seemed to work, and the YNAB update screen was unable to show the changelog, since it didn't have the component to render the HTML.

#3) Right-clicking on an account name still does nothing!

Oh well.


1) Weird.. YNAB4 isn't mono-based. I vaguely recall that YNAB Pro was .NET based (but didn't work in Mono due to some proprietary math libs they were using)

2) Interesting. That's one of the things I like about 1.4 that the web stuff is a lot more stable than it used to be.

3) I wonder why right-clicking is inconsistent through the app? Maybe they use different handler types depending on the location you click on. Still seems odd though.

I'm intrigued that the update check worked. I might try this in a clean Ubuntu VM to see if that solves some of these conflicts.

Thanks for checking!
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby halfmoonboy » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:59 am

WolverineFan wrote:1) Weird.. YNAB4 isn't mono-based. I vaguely recall that YNAB Pro was .NET based (but didn't work in Mono due to some proprietary math libs they were using)

To clarify about .NET, it is wine that is installing mono and gecko while setting up the new wineprefix. This happens before the YNAB4 installer starts up.
2) Interesting. That's one of the things I like about 1.4 that the web stuff is a lot more stable than it used to be.

If I saw any other improvements, I would have spent more time figuring it out. I may have screwed something up in the process of updating from wine1.4 to wine1.5.
3) I wonder why right-clicking is inconsistent through the app? Maybe they use different handler types depending on the location you click on. Still seems odd though.

Probably, they are different handlers that are associated with different widgets. I suspect that some of YNAB's code is "bare metal", writing directly to the AIR platform, and some is built from higher level widgets. Also, the tooltip notes might be interacting badly with right-click.
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby tfdjim » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:31 pm

Hi,

I just upgraded to Crossover 12.0.0. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I downloaded the ynab 4 windows installer and downloaded and setup Dropbox. I then launched Crossover, pointed it to the ynab windows installer and followed the prompts. Everything is running well and the file syncs w/ my Dropbox folder. I had Crossover put a ynab icon on the desktop.

There is a small glitch. After opening the app, I locked the ynab icon to the Launcher. Ynab will not launch from the locked Launcher icon. The program does launch from the desktop icon. I can live with it.

I'm now one step closer to being free from Windows and OSX.
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby nuttzo33 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:02 pm

Ynab is running great on the latest wine (1.5.20), updater appears to be working and cloud sync should work but i don't have a iphone or android to test.
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Re: anyone tried crossover or wine beta?

Postby WolverineFan » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:49 am

I've noticed that recent updates to WINE 1.5 have broken the YNAB update function (I'm pretty sure it's not YNAB that broke). Is anyone else seeing this problem?

I get the notification that there's a YNAB update, but the changelog window is empty and when I download the update, the hash verification fails:
Error details: #9005 (3219)
Error getting hash of downloaded file: Error #3219

Downloading the new installer and using my script to re-install works (at least I get the update notification so i know to upgrade) but it'd be nice to have this work again if I can figure out what's wrong.
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